Fashion

therichgirlsareweeping:

tomewing:

I wouldn’t say I don’t care about fashion, or at least not with the “look at me!” note of pride some people say it. I would say that I don’t know enough about fashion to make informed fashion choices. I don’t “speak” fashion, if you like. But the devilish thing about fashion is that it’s a language we all speak even if we don’t know it - the unfashionable end up like foreigners, or speech impediment sufferers. Body types and budgets become like accents. This is why I jerk a little at sentiments like “there’s always something you’re trying to say” - it may be true, but it’s not necessarily very much to do with what you are ‘saying’. So the question becomes - what level of facility with fashion’s language should be assumed? What level is assumed?

Additional perspectives!

Honestly, Tom, I’m not sure. I feel like people who go around screaming about how they don’t care what people think are in a distinctly different category than the people for whom fashion just isn’t a priority.

Oh totally, I understand that’s what you’re getting at (I was trying to nod that way too in my first sentence) - and that “I don’t care about fashion” line tends to have all sorts of gendered overtones too (or gets elided into a general wannabe Bill Hicks schtick). I just used it as a jump off because it sparked ideas about fashion-as-speech. Just v interested at the moment by these areas of culture (netstuff being another) which are ubiquitous but inspire a level of angry resistance, a rejection of them being a part of culture almost…

(there’s a big anti-fashion bit in Retromania isn’t there?)

(Reblogged from therichgirlsareweeping)

Notes

  1. likeapairofbottlerockets reblogged this from desnoise and added:
    “Fashion” even as a starting point is super unclear -are you talking about the “fashion industry” or “high fashion” or...
  2. rawkblog reblogged this from therichgirlsareweeping and added:
    The thing about the quote is it’s not reductive: especially in terms of men’s clothing, there’s an enormous gap between...
  3. tompearson said: Seems to me it’s easier to read fashion than to speak it (at least I find it so). Speaking requires concerted effort and practice, the reading/listening you can mostly just kind of pick up by being observant and interested.
  4. desnoise reblogged this from tomewing and added:
    Thomas Frank has really interesting ideas...his The Conquest
  5. tomewing reblogged this from therichgirlsareweeping and added:
    understand that’s what you’re getting at (I was trying to nod that way too in my first sentence) - and that “I don’t...
  6. lastbutnotleast said: Everyone speaks clothes.You may not know what width of tie is de rigeur, but everyone knows something of the language of clothes. Costume designers use that to help actors define roles. Whenever you’ve made plans and asked what kind of place it is…
  7. therichgirlsareweeping reblogged this from tomewing and added:
    Additional perspectives! Honestly, Tom, I’m not sure....feel like people who go around...
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